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speratus said:
No, in those who bear the image of Satan.
Incredible!! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/drop.gif" alt="" /> I learned for the first time, thanks to you, that Satan is capable of the propagation of human souls. Ya know, speratus, before you came here and started what you probably believe is a defense of Lutheranism, I held Lutherans in high regard. The only hope I have to retaining that high regard is that what you are espousing is your own distorted personal views. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/igiveup.gif" alt="" />

1. I did not say that Satan propagated souls. Furthermore, the image of Satan is an accident and not of the substance of man.
2. I first learned of this view through my reading of Reform theologicians; however, I believe that it is consistent with both Reform and Lutheran historic doctrines of the Fall and, more importantly, with scripture.

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The Doctrine of Sanctification, A. W. Pink Even among those preachers who desire to be regarded as orthodox, who do not deny the Fall as a historical fact, few among them perceive the dire effects and extent thereof. "Bruised by the fall," as one popular hymn puts it, states the truth far too mildly; yea, entirely misstates it. Through the breach of the first covenant all men have lost the image of God, and now bear the image of the Devil (John 8:44). The whole of their faculties are so depraved that they can neither think (2 Cor. 3:5), speak, nor do anything truly good and acceptable unto God. They are by birth, altogether unholy, unclean, loathsome and abominable in nature, heart, and life; and it is altogether beyond their power to change themselves.

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NATURAL MEN IN A DREADFUL CONDITION, J. EdwardsNatural men are in the image of the devil. The image of God is rased out, and the image of the devil is stamped upon them.

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