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NO, the Apology is correct ONLY in part. You need the second half of the equation—what in the image was retained. The imago dei in the narrower sense, consisting of knowledge, righteousness and true holiness, was wholly lost at the fall, but the imago dei in the wider sense, which includes man’s "intellectual power, natural affections and moral freedom," was retained (Berkhof). The image of God (which cannot be lost) was the spiritual, immortal, rational substance of the soul, with the powers of knowing and freely willing: the divine image, which can be lost, lay for knowledge in wisdom, for the will and its effects in true righteousness and holiness.

If we speak about the image of God from the Lutheran perspective after the fall there is nothing left to speak about, for the image of God never left the Garden (except in Christ, and then we need to discuss the Christology problems again...). If however the image of God continued in any form after the fall, one must abandon the Lutheran understanding of it.


I'm not exactly sure how Berkhof defines "intellectual power, natural affections and moral freedom" but it appears from your description that he has sorely understated the effects of original sin. But, however these effects are defined, they remain accidents and do not effect the substance of unregenerate man. He is still a man and a creation of God even though the image of God is lost. So there is no Christological problem because Christ shares the same substance of every man which He received of His mother.

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First, thanks for proving creationism, not Traducianism. Second, once again it is stressed that God is the one that created man and woman (vs 1 & 2). Third, AFTER the Fall, Seth was born. Fourth, Adam begat a son in his own likeness, after his image, however in Lutheranism the “image of God” (“the knowledge of God, righteousness, and truth”) in man was ALREADY lost. Thus, what image is vs 3 speaking about?

1, You're welcome, I think. It was not my intent to prove Traducianism or disprove creationism but to show that God uses means to create souls.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. The image of Adam is that of a man corrupted by sin.

Last edited by speratus; Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:26 AM.