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Tom says: It may seem like people like Pilgrim and Joe are being harsh on movements like the Emergent Church, however given the seriousness of the matter, I think it is appropriate.

Harsh? Absolutely NOT.

Jeremy, YOU are the one who is blind (not that woman in the clip!). <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bigglasses.gif" alt="" />

Everybody's talking about that dog in the video clip, what about the tire used for the Advent wreath and candles?