Pilgrim:

I mean not to sound like I believe as some PBer's would that a regenrate person can sit in from of a pole and worship it for years. And still be considered regenerate

We are regenerated which is the cause and the effect is conversion. But is there a rule of thumb that there is no lag? I dont see scripture supporting this that .

Regeneration will make one hunger and thirst for the Word of God.

I am against doctrinal/Gospel regeneration. And regeneration as a process. So when I say immediate without means, i think we are closer than we may think.

There never was a sinner half as big as Christ is as a Savior.