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Joe k said:
We are regenerated which is the cause and the effect is conversion. But is there a rule of thumb that there is no lag? I dont see scripture supporting this that.
Joe,

Yes, I think there is more than sufficient evidence in Scripture to support immediate conversion consequent to regeneration. Just read all the accounts recorded in the book of Acts. I'm sure you are more than familiar with most of them and thus I see no need to give chapter/verse. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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You then state:
I am against doctrinal/Gospel regeneration. And regeneration as a process. So when I say immediate without means, i think we are closer than we may think.
It is very possible we are closer than what might appear to be otherwise. I would like to ask, however, if you would define "doctrinal/Gospel regeneration". I'm not sure what you mean by that.

In His grace,

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