Watchman Nee is against both Charasmatics and gibberish. And of course it would seem strange that we are to forsake the gift of knowledge or any of the others today. Have you read this by Nee? In light of this I wonder why you persists in calling Nee Charasmatic and that he believes in gibberish tongues? Charasmatics are the second wave movement off of the 1st wave movement gibberish Pentecostals all for gibberish.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]averagefellar...I was not aware that you knew me so well. Who are you? So, IQ measures truth? Does it measure spirituality as well? Martyrdom measures truth? You met Jesus?</font><hr></blockquote><p><br>It was a combination of it all that made Nee quite a spectacular man. Men men of his grand intelligence get heady but he never did. I met Jesus, by His Holy Spirit dwelling in my spirit. Nee was martyred last 20 years of your life. Spirituality is measured by the Spirit in our willing cooperation and strengthened spirit.<br><br><hr width="85%"><br>[color:red]Edited:</font color=red> This section was cut due to its undue length. It is preferred that you provide a link to a website where such lengthy articles can be read. - Pilgrim<br><br><hr width="85%"><br>What is the reason for such appalling shallowness and poverty these days? Because the ministers have experienced so little themselves. They have managed to dodge the cross whenever God offered it to them or appointed it for them. There is very often a way out, another way that is less costly, a lower path and not the way of the cross. How few and rare are those who are truly rich spiritually. And why? Because their sufferings have not abounded.<br><br>God arranges most perfectly. He knows what kind of sufferings each one needs-whether it be physical, material, mental, or spiritual. When God in His wisdom brings it to us because He sees that we need it, let us rejoice and see the Lord in it. Let us accept it with joy, acknowledging that we are absolutely equal to it. He indeed is, and in the circumstance we do find Him in His fullness and sufficiency. We come to really know God because we find Him doing in us and for us what we cannot do. Thus are we able to minister Him in life to others, to build up the body, to scatter life-His life-wherever we go. Whenever death is really working in us, just then and only then can life really flow out to others.<br>

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