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evangelist said: No it is not a claim it name it, it is this what I mean: Mal:3:8: Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Mal:3:9: Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. Mal:3:10: Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. Were these Scriptures quoted to explain how these "evangelists" became millionaires? Let me offer an alternate Scriptural explanation from Ezekiel 34: The word of the Lord came to me saying, "Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel. Tell them, 'Thus says the Lord God: Woe to the shepherds of Israel that feed themselves! Should not the shepherds feed the flock? But you eat the fat, you clothe yourselves with the wool, you kill them for meat, but you do not fed the flock. The diseased you have not strengthened, neither have you treated the sick, nor bound up the broken, nor restored those which were driven away nor sought for the lost, but with force and cruelty you have ruled them. And they were scattered for lack of a shepherd and became prey to all the beasts of the field. ... Therefore, shepherds, hear the word of the Lord: As I live, because My flock became prey and My shepherds fed themselves instead of My flock, I am against the shepherds; and I will require My flock at their hand... Evangelist also writes:
You sure posted alot of scriptures.
2Co:3:6: Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
But I think alot of people don't know that not all are not spiritually led. Your words (and the familiar teachings of these false teachers) suggest that because "the letter kills" we should not rely on Scripture which is certain and unchanging and infallible. Because "the letter kills," we should leave our Bibles on the shelf and rely on "the Spirit" instead. The letter that kills is the Law under the Old Covenant. The Spirit that gives life is the same Spirit that gave the Law - and the same Spirit which bears witness with our spirit that we are sons of God. The letter that kills is the letter which condemns all humanity as guilty sinners under the Law of God. But we dare not throw away that Law! And the trouble with relying entirely on whatever we think or feel the Spirit saying without the letter is that our feelings and perceprions change all the time. But the word of God stands forever, unchanging, sure, perfect. It is the Spirit speaking through the letter that gives life and leads us where He wishes. -Robin
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