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Robin said:
Perhaps too much time has gone by. Read the entire thread again to refresh your memory, Evangelist. This is not a matter of mere opinion. These are indisputably proven facts with more than sufficient documentation from these false teachers' own words - not to mention the testimony of Scripture to the contrary of what they teach.

These teachers represent a departure from the Christian faith not only historically, but Biblically. Unless God grants them repentance, you won't see a single one of them in heaven.

But isn't the good news of our gospel is that a person Believes in the death burial , and resurrection which they all do and teach , but maybe in somethings which you claim as false lose some rewards but not their salvation?

Do you see them a down right athiest and they preach againt the cross of Jesus , and that Jesus is not the Son of God like muslims?

Do they preach that they worship satan or a watch tower, or book of mormons as such?

You and I know people are getting saved so they can't be suporting satan or satan would be going against his own kingdom.

Oh Evangelist,

Of course a true disciple of Jesus Christ will not lose eternal life, but you are right if we persist in heresy we will lose our rewards at the Bema seat of Christ, being saved as by fire. It is for this reason we need to walk worth of the calling, walking what the bible calls, 'circumspectly' with eyes all around. If we lack wisdom as the Holy Spirit speak by James, we should ask the Lord for wisdom.

There are many humble folks who are not that clever, in wanting to be used of God have borrowed from things they read in a book by this one and that one and being what Jesus calls us 'sheep' we are prone to going astry. It is so important for this reason that we are in fellowship with those who walk according to the truth, for many have strayed into their own ways. It is not that they are fallen away but that they are leading astray others by their hardness of heart and unwillingness to abide in Christ. This is a thing that I know we cannot make one stay in the first love, but it is something that certainly comes upon the Body of Christ as Jesus has revealed to us in Revelation (read the letters to the churches Rev 1-3)

Of course, Robin does not mean they are Atheists or Mormons, it is just that these sheep of the Lord are mixed in with weeds and the Lord of the Harvest, would have us to pray for the one's who are His, that they might be protected and to warn them of the danger of going over into heresy. You see what happens if members of the Body do go over into a SUPER SPIRITUAL thing, we have learned by Church History that it brings terrible shame on the name of God. We know that He defends His name, and will make a swift end, He is coming soon. Amen? We need to be salt and light. Often as James says, the things coming out of our mouths from our hearts are far from that. We do not want peeps to picking briars and thorns off the body, BUT THIS HAPPENS..because we are being perfected, the dross like in gold is being refined by the Lord, and the ministries He has set in the BODY. His body. It is never right for us to point at the toe and curse it because it is not functioning properly, or chop it off...we need the big toe, or else the body will fall over. Spiritually speaking we cut off evil in our lives and this is what happens when fine Christians with noble intentions to reform the planet, green the earth, do the whole humanitarian bit, drag many into...places where we aught not to be. Our first call is to proclaim the Gospel in Spirit and Truth. Problem when peeps just do it in SPIRIT....and leave Truth to grow whatever....Problem also when peeps...just do it in Truth...I mean they just do the head stuff...knowledge is good but it is useless if there is no heart, and I guess that is why we need each other SO MUCH...these folks at TBN are ALL HEART...that is not good, you know what happens in a marriage if the one partner makes ALL THE DECISIONS...sort of a dictatorship..well that ship is bound to SINK to the bottom and divide, and that is what happens when believers who are well intentioned ROAR of in one direction, hanging onto the tail, or the nose or the ear of the Elephant, not that Jesus is an elephant, but it is just that there is so much about Him that we can get off at a tangent, going our own little way...and then the body divides and the world sits up and questions us...is this how God is ? It is so important to try to hold off judgment and I think that Robin understands this for he is helping poeple who are coming out of breakaway groups, like those in CHARISMANIA LAND...see believers like to make their own park to play in, and it happens when they say...BIBLE ONLY, or SPIRIT ONLY..or FAITH only, or HOPE only, or LOVE only...so no matter how much I dislike this word in our current times, we as believers need to learn TOLERANCE with one another and pray and trust God to heal these terrible tears that are happening. It is something so frightening that I understand perfectly how you are feeling, BUT you need to chill and just get on with what the Lord has given you to do.

You have to remember that those who come to Christ under ministries that are unstable will not always be weak, and bring shame to His name but the fall of rate in such situations is alarming. I suggest you read some books on the Evangelical ministries of Dwight L. Moody and Charles Finney. I get a sense of despair many times when I look at where we are going as a body in this world, and then I remember what Jesus said to the disciples when they asked, "but how will anyone be saved."....and Jesus said, "With GOD NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE" ...k.

Your brother,