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straw said: It is Paul that tries to stay the judgments by saying that some preach this message for financial gain, and bad motives, but at least the message is going out. Straw, Let's take a look at that allusion you have made and see if it REALLY says what you evidently think it does, i.e., condone another gospel or a lopsided gospel, which is invariably the same as another gospel. The question is, Do the teachings of those associated with TBN, in particular, conform to biblical truth? or are they false? Philippians 1:15-18 (ASV) "Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will: the one [do it] of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel; but the other proclaim Christ of faction, not sincerely, thinking to raise up affliction for me in my bonds. What then? only that in every way, whether in pretence or in truth, Christ is proclaimed; and therein I rejoice, yea, and will rejoice."
As one can easily discern, Paul is speaking about motives and not the message itself. Indeed he would never condone a dumbing down, truncating of or a different gospel of Christ else he would be guilty of contradiction, which of course would be an indictment against God the Spirit Who inspired what he wrote. (cf. Gal 1:6-9; 2Cor 11:4) As I and nearly everyone else who is participating in this thread, except yourself and Evangelist, has tried to communicate in the most simple way(s), the issue isn't what appears on the outside in regard to these people, nor what appearances of "good" they might be said to have done, but rather it is a matter of God's TRUTH that is the issue. Do these people teach the TRUTH about God, Christ, sin, salvation, faith, repentance, etc....??? There can be no denying that what they are teaching is antithetical to the Scriptures and to that which has been held by the historic Christian Church, within which the Spirit of God dwells and has appointed as the "pillar of the truth". (1Tim 3:15) Romans 16:17-18 (ASV) "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them that are causing the divisions and occasions of stumbling, contrary to the doctrine which ye learned: and turn away from them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Christ, but their own belly; and by their smooth and fair speech they beguile the hearts of the innocent."
In His grace,
simul iustus et peccator
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