The Highway Forums General Discussion Theology Discussion Forum Arminian Atonement of John Piper

Kevin,

I'm not so much bothered by "condition", although I do believe to use the word in reference to the necessity of repentance and faith is unwise. The little chatter going on in this thread is evidence enough of the confusion it can bring even among theologically educated individuals, never mind those who are not.

My objection to the quote/statement you provided by John Piper is his stating that Christ died for all men. And, I am quite sure Piper wouldn't qualify that to mean all "types" of men, but rather Christ died for all without exception. IF he meant the former (types), then could you possibly confirm that? Otherwise, he is not in accord with any of the Reformed Confessions, which for Piper wouldn't be that unusual since he seems to take great joy in coming up with something "new" from time to time which is at odds with the historic Reformed Church, i.e., contra-Confessional.