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In reply to: My only question regarding this is that Revelation is thought to have been written after Hebrews (The Reformation Studt Bible says it was written around 95 AD and The HarperCollins Study Bible [NOT one of my more trusted resources, but the historical stuff seems fairly accurate] seems to favor a date, because they won't make a firm claim to a date, after 70 AD). One of the best ways of dating a book of the scriptures is to let the book date itself. All orthodox Christians believe in the infalibility of the scriptures. Rev 17:9-10 gets us within 14 years of when Revelation was written, and it definitely puts it at a pre-70 AD date. The passage states there are 7 kings, five have fallen, and one is (at the time of writing). The 6th king is currently ruling. Verse 9 attaches these kings to seven mountains, which most everyone agrees refers to Rome. The ten Roman emperors from Julius Caesar are: 1. Julius Caesar (49-44 BC) 2. Augustus (27 BC - 14 AD) 3. Tiberius (14-37 AD) 4. Gaius (37-41 AD) 5. Claudius (41-54 AD) 6. Nero (54-68 AD) 7. Galba (68-69 AD) 8. Otho (69 AD) 9. Vitellius (69 AD) 10. Vespasian (69-79 AD) Interestingly, the scriptures also tell us the 7th king will continue "for a short time" (unlike the previous 6). As the judgement of God and vindication of Christ drew near, Roman emperors didn't last very long, some less than a year before they were murdered. But there is no possible way to equate the "6th king" of Revelation with Domitian. The next passage is Rev 11:1-2. According to this passage, the temple, at least in this vision, is still standing, but it predicts a trodding of the holy city by the Gentiles for 42 months. The time from when Rome declared war on Jerusalem to the fall of Jerusalem was almost exactly 42 months. This passage is strong evidence that Revelation was written at least 3 and a half years before 70 AD (still in the time of Nero). There's more evidence, but my point is that whenever possible, I recommend letting an inspired book date itself rather than accepting some "expert's" opinion. Alot of these "experts" have an agenda of their own (like allowing for the continuation of the charismata) which influence their pronouncements. -Robin
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Is all revelation found in scripture
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GOTCHYA!
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When was Revelation Written?
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Link and Charis ?
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