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No, I said the Spirit "is not at work in the modern-day Pentecostal/Charismatic prophecy/tongues/etc."—i.e., their so-called spiritual gifts. Learn to read!


What is it with you and the word "whosoever"? Have I said that one must be a Pharisee to blaspheme the Spirit? No! What I've said is that to be guilty of BLASPHEMY involves a certain level of knowledge—which the Pharisees had. And I most certainly have not said that one can commit such blasphemy and not be guilty of it!

You'd best watch yourself quite closely now! You're putting a plethora of words in my mouth, and that will get you banned from this discussion board very quickly if you keep it up!


Yes, we do, by the implication of Christ's own words to them, as I have explained.


Where on earth are you getting all this stuff? Why not deal with what I have said, since it is after all to me that you are responding?


Bringing up the unpardonable sin to cessationists is a standard tactic from Pentecostals/Charismatics. STANDARD. I dare say any of us here who have been involved in discussion with P/C's regarding whether the sign gifts continue today have heard the same accusation! So it was little surprise to me that you went ahead and brought it up. How ironic that you should say that I am reckless about my claims with the Holy Spirit, when rather it is you who have played fast and loose with my words! When I say that the Spirit is not at work among the modern-day "gifts," it is entirely consistent with what I believe to be the biblical doctrine concerning their cessation.

But you have virtually accused me and any other cessationists of being guilty of the unpardonable sin if we say that the modern-day "gifts" are not genuine works of the Holy Spirit! (Since that is "speaking a word against the Spirit" in your understanding, is it not?) Is this consistent with what you've said to me? Tell me, are you so arrogant as to think that you know that the Holy Spirit is not at work among cessationists?


I Cor. 13 doesn't even mention the idea? Are you blind? Read v. 8! You can argue all you want that this doesn't mean that the gifts HAVE passed away, but you cannot argue that it says nothing about the idea that they WILL. And you accuse cessationists of not basing their claims on Scripture! What a crock!


Yes, it is a "trump card"—a way of silencing any and all opponents by backhandedly accusing them of the only sin which is said in Scripture to be unforgiveable. This as opposed to actually presenting any formal refutation of the cessationist postion: instead, the well is first poisoned so that the cessationist position is in opposition to the Spirit from the get-go, rather than after the thoughtful consideration of the whole counsel of Scripture.


I've already told you, Christ's word about blasphemy of the Spirit was not a warning to believers, but a condemnation of those who had already committed the sin. It is ludicrous to suggest that one who is INDWELLED by the Spirit could blaspheme the same Spirit! Do you believe the Spirit does not guard God's children against such? Obedience to the Spirit is not a work that originates within us, but it is rather a work of the Spirit Himself: "For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ" (Phil. 1:6), "for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure" (Phil. 2:13).

Another post like this from you and I myself will ban you.

Good day.