The Highway Forums General Discussion Theology Discussion Forum Is all revelation found in scripture

Please note: For sake of space I have abbreviated Link’s statements.

There is no new revelation, however, the Holy Spirit speaks to us everyday (Heb 12:25). God does not speak outside of that which the Holy Spirit has already spoken (2 Pet 1:19f). The Scripture is complete and already sufficient to accomplish that which God has chosen (2 Tim 3:16f). The canon is closed. As R. Fowler White states,


No one here denies that there were prophets after the ascension (i.e. Agabus, Acts 11:27-28; 21:10-11). We just deny any further need for them as their so called “new” revelations can no longer be validated by an apostle. God has already spoken to us by His Son (meaning Christ as the Head of His Church, his apostles, et. al. (Eph 4:11-16; 5:23; Col 1:18)).

This is not poor logic, but proper interpretation of the Greek text. Miracles came in each age of the Bible for specific periods of time and then they vanished (the revealing of the law to Moses; the lives of Elijah and Elisha, and the age of the early Church in Christ). To use your illustration, the McDonald’s next door has changed significantly since it first opened. Many things McDonald’s had when they first opened are no longer even on the menu. Though the foundation of McDonald’s is still there, what they serve is different. Their meat is not even real meat any more—it is processed and that is what is coming through the doors of the Charismatic Church—processed miracles—imitations. So much for CRMT (Charismatic Ronald McDonald Theology).

First, no one said that miracles were ONLY a sign to authenticate the apostle’s teaching. One wonders why you have to continue to use deception to make your points. One of the reasons for miracles was to confirm the teaching of Scripture. Miracles helped the Jewish people recognize that the Messiah had come as prophet, priest, and King. Miracles are the fulfillment of Scripture, etc. Second, miracles and such did follow them that believe, however, the Mark 16 promise “in context” was only to the Eleven (Mark 16:14, 17)…. Third, as Jesus says, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign (miracle)” (Matt 12:39). Apparently they still do!

Creeds and confessions are interpretations of Scripture that have been established by the Church as true. As with anything else they have matured with time and study. They help guard the church against, “seducing spirits and doctrines of devils,” as you are presenting. As has already been shown to you in Hebrews 1, 2 and 1 Cor 13, etc. the sign gifts have ceased. You have yet to document otherwise.

Do you have the gift of self interpretation? Above you argued that it did not matter if the canon was closed and here you are arguing that it does matter. Let us know when you can properly interpret yourself.

Was/Is there not such a thing as an unbelieving Jew? Were there not unbelieving Gentiles that were familiar with what the Jews taught? Just because one is an unbeliever does not mean they are not familiar with what a religion teaches!

And so what if tongues and their interpretation if done rightly edified the Church—this does not prove that the Church continued to require this edification. We are edified by the Word, by prayer, by the sacraments, etc. Jesus and His apostles laid a “foundation” (Eph 2:19-22). The foundation is not made completely of the same elements used to build upon it.

There are no “new” prophecies therefore they are all easy to judge as false!

Actually, we have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the sign gifts have been discontinued both from Scripture and church history. Our job is not to convince you of the truth, but to lay out the truth before you. You came here on what you thought was a mission from God to convince us that you were right; however, this did not happen. It may be wise for you to consider why God has really sent you here; that you are wrong and needed the truth. You need only ask way the Holy Spirit has not yet shown you the reality of the truth? As was stated previously, we pray that, “God may give you repentance to the acknowledging of the truth.”