Joe k said:
What are everone's thoughts on regeneration. The historical reformed position is a process which entails more than just quickening. Calvin himself included justification, repentance, faith under the umbrella of regeneration.
It is true that in some of the older writings you can find where the term regeneration is used in a way which is "broad" in scope and includes conversion. But as time went on and theologians gave more time to studying such things regeneration was also considered in a "narrow" sense, i.e., the one-time immediate and silent work of the Holy Spirit wherein the very nature of a sinner is re-created; given spiritual life, etc. Synonyms for regeneration are "new birth", "born again", "born from above", "made alive", "resurrection", and others.
If you have a copy of Louis Berkhof's
Systematic Theology, he has a good section on this subject speaking of regeneration used in the "broad" and "narrow" senses. Today, when most speak of regeneration it is in the narrow sense and the result of that regeneration is called "conversion" in which man is cognizant of what is happening and/or takes an active part, e.g., conviction, confession, repentance and believing on Christ.
Joek then states:
Here is my position:
Regeneration is simply the activity of the Holy Spirit which happens immediately with no means whatsovever. We are 100% unconscious of this and is different than conversion.
The historic Reformed position has most generally been (hypers excepted) that regeneration involves the use of means, i.e., the preaching of the Gospel which is the "power of God unto salvation". (Rom 1:16) Regeneration in Scripture is most always associated with and happens in conjunction with the Word of God. An exception, for example, is John the Baptist. But again, this is the rare exception and certainly not the rule. Another aspect of regeneration which is held by the majority of the Reformed Churches, at least in the writings of those representative of the various denominations, for example, Charles Hodge > Presbyterian, John Owen > Congregational, etc., is that conversion occurs
immediately after regeneration in distinction from a period of time occurring between regeneration and conversion.
I am in agreement with the majority on this one; regeneration is a supernatural one-time work of the Holy Spirit which is unknown and not experienced by the individual. Immediately after regeneration conversion follows and is a fruit of it. The Holy Spirit most always works regeneration in conjunction with the Word of God.
In His grace,