I meant Paul is a specific example - I do agree that God does the electing.

But I also am trying to be objective and see if we have any part to play (or cooperation) or if the revealed truths and commands are simply stated so that we have knowledge of what we must do and not what we have the ability to do.

I'm not saying we are in control but are we taking election too far??? Is there any part man plays, at least after they become a believer?

Becasue doesn't election as a starting point cause more fear and confusion over - am I elect???

I don't know if the clear message of the Bible is - Am I Chosen??? and unfortunately I think that is the knee-jerk reaction of the non-reformed when presented with our doctrine.

Last edited by AJC; Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:13 AM.