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Pilgrim said:evangelist said: No but they control better those who are speaching the <span style="background-color:yellow">real gospel of the bible</span> and the will of God. <emphasis mine: Pilgrim> Evangelist, Why it is you don't seem to comprehend the seriousness of what everyone, including myself have been trying to convey to you I can only guess. But what is apparently true is you just don't get it!! And just what is it that you don't get? Well, it is that this "real gospel of the Bible" which you claim the TBN preachers and followers believe is not the "real gospel of the Bible" at all but something alien to it. The Gospel which the Christian Church has taught for centuries upon centuries is TOTALLY DIFFERENT than the "gospel" which those you hold in high regard believe and teach. Sooooo, either you and they are holding to the truth or the historic Christian church holds the truth. Someone is seriously wrong. And I emphasize seriously, because the errors are such that to hold to those errors means damnation. This is not my opinion but it is rather what Paul wrote: Galatians 1:6-9 (KJV) "I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." Do you understand what Paul wrote there? He said there is only ONE Gospel. And that ONE Gospel is that which he and the other Apostles and Disciples preached and taught. ANY other gospel is no Gospel at all. There is no room for a wishy-washy tolerance when it comes to the Gospel. You either have it right.. or you have it wrong. And, if you have it wrong, then Paul says "may you be accursed (anathema), i.e., cast out of the Church excommunicated, deemed as an unbeliever and/or a heretic. This is serious stuff. Again, the judgment Paul pronounces is NOT based upon how one looks, how much money one makes or doesn't make, how large a following or fancy a building one erects, how many people are allegedly blessed, how happy one is, or any such thing. The sentence of being accursed falls upon those who hold to and preach/teach different DOCTRINE.... another Gospel. Again Paul writes: 2 Corinthians 11:3-4 (KJV) "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or [if] ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with [him]." Paul's concern here is identical to that which he wrote to the churches in Galatia. The issue is DOCTRINAL.... the Gospel. That which is not the same as that which Paul and the other Apostles and Disciples preached is utterly and totally rejected. It isn't enough to simply speak the word, "Jesus", for there is only ONE Jesus of the Bible. So one must ask, "Jesus who?" and "What did this Jesus do?", etc. Once again, those of the TBN group preach and teach a different Jesus than the Jesus that the historic Christian Church has proclaimed for centuries. Someone is wrong. And whoever is wrong, leading multitudes of people astray, and is liable to judgment along with all those who follow them. Would you PLEASE take the short time required to read this: What is the Gospel?. Consider what the author has written and then compare that to what you and all those belonging to TBN and similar groups are teaching. At least you should be able to see that there is a black & white difference between the two. Then, it is your responsibility to determine from Scripture, which group is in error. Your eternal destiny hinges greatly upon your decision. I would hope that is worth some of your time. In His grace, I see no difference with my ministry as with many of those from TBN, as we support each other, in one faith , the good gospel of Christ , and being one body, and as we believe together in the same baptism.
But, if I clearly taught elsewhere that repentance/belief alone was sufficient no one would think coming forward is necessary for salvation,or water baptism is necessary for salvation.
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