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Pilgrim said:

Ya know... that almost sounds logical and biblical but unfortunately it is not. It is true that the Holy Spirit leads and convinces us of the truth of Scriptural teaching but it is not APART from secondary means, e.g., reasonable and logical arguments. It is NOT the case where someone rejects a truth and then suddenly without any human intervention (argument, defense, reason, etc.) that person embraces it.

Pilgrim, you put words in my mouth I didn't say or intend. A misunderstanding or poor communication I suppose. I was saying that when we are under conviction of a truth, we will not sway without the Holy Spirit's work. I didn't say we shouldn't reason with one another. How are Spiritual things revealed? Who is it that knows the Spirit of man that is within him? Who knows the mind of God? All I was saying, that we change as truth is revealed to us "by the Spirit". You can reason with someone until you are blue in the face, but unless the Spirit of God works, it falls on deaf ears. I also wasn't giving an excuse for not hearing, but pointing out that we can't. If reasoning was enough to change people's thinking the church wouldn't be in the shape it is today. It is the result of hardened hearts rejecting the truth, a heart "only" God can change. Ergo, without the Spirit's work, reasoning will not have any effect.

Hmmm, we got off topic, I got reprimanded for that previously, just wanted to clarify things.

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