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Pilgrim,
One last thing: God is love. He that loves not, doesn't know God. Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
I wish I could disabuse you of the belief that God hates certain people. God hates sin. God hates evil. Most of the verses you mentioned have to do with God hating certain actions - but to say God has an abiding hate for certain people through all eternity - decreeing they be damned in hell forever - that is certainly a dangerous claim to make, on only a few verses.
I'll only mention that your inclusion of Malachi is helpful in perhaps perceiving how the word "Esau" and "Edom" are interchangeable. I don't believe God hated Esau personally enough to damn him. I don't believe God hates anyone to that point. But in these verse from Malachi, and then from Romans 9, it appears to me that God is using Esau to represent Edom, and Jacob, Israel.
Mike
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