Originally Posted by MikeL
Most of the verses you mentioned have to do with God hating certain actions - but to say God has an abiding hate for certain people through all eternity - decreeing they be damned in hell forever - that is certainly a dangerous claim to make, on only a few verses.
1. How many verses are required before a doctrine can be established? The irony here is that you have taken one verse, James 2:24 and interpreted it in such a way that it contradicts myriad other verses, particularly those penned by Paul which teach that salvation is ALL of Grace and not of works [of any kind whatsoever]. Thus you have stated that you believe that works [good] somehow contribute to one's salvation, aka: synergism. I find this inconsistent.

2. FYI, I think you would be hard-pressed to find anyone on this board who is a "follower" of John Calvin. Most of us here appreciate many things about John Calvin; what he wrote, what he implemented, the resulting benefits derived from what he wrote, etc. Yet, we also find things in Calvin which we must disagree. We are "followers" of Christ and of His Word only. There are myriad men who have written wonderful and true things, according to God's Word, to which we can agree. But all men are fallible and thus we read discerningly. The open hostility you have shown here with your disparaging words in regard to John Calvin has to make one wonder if you have, in fact, read much of anything of his writings. Have you read through his Institutes of the Christian Religion? Have you referenced his Commentaries? Have you read any of his tracts or treatises? Have you read any of the Confessions of Catechisms he was instrumental in their forming? Have you read many of his sermons? Contrariwise, I can say I and probably many here have read a number of C.S. Lewis' books.

3. One of your first statements you made on this board was that you were interested in finding out what Calvinism teaches. Yet, when we have referred you to articles, books and sermons written by those who are faithful adherents to historic Calvinism, you have openly refused to consult them. I find this rather hypocritical. If nothing else, these references show that we stand in the line of historic Calvinism and that we are not some rogue group of people who have our own unique ideas and deceptively call ourselves Calvinists, which btw, is quite prevalent today, i.e., there are those who refer to themselves as Calvinists but who are either opposed to it in doctrine, fail to practice that which Calvinism teaches, or redefine what Calvinism teaches.

4. Lastly, I would once again ask you to stay on topic in these threads. You seem to have a penchant to run off on several unrelated directions in your replies. In the Board Guidelines, which you had to agree to it states that one is to adhere to posting messages which are appropriate to the respect forums, and by implication the subjects within the threads within those forums. It also states that inflammatory messages are not allowed. I would recommend that you re-read those Guidelines and make the necessary changes to your participation here. grin


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