I skipped through one of those sermons on the site SemperReformanda gave a link to. I'll try to give a brief summary and show the argument being made. He argued that the new covenant is only made to actual believers that know God like it says in Jer 31. He looked specifically at Heb 8:6 and the word "better" or "superior." He showed the the greek kreitton is rightfully translated. Paedos who argue that the new covenant is greater in degree are wrong because the greek word means greater in kind. He showed that the people in the old covenant did not always have a change of heart. But the new covenant "will not be like the covenant made with their forefathers" and when God says "I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people" and "because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest" its talking about believers only. Then he shows that Jesus is mediator only for his people and not the entire visible church. He asks the question "if he is mediator for everyone in the visible church, what does he mediate to people in the new covenant who are unbelievers."

I am still not sold on either side, creto or paedo. I lean towards paedo but I did think that sermon had some good points in it. I ask the same question he did in the sermon, what does Jesus mediate to those in the covenant or visual church that are not elect? I dont think it can be wrath.

I would be happy if someone would try to persuade me either way. Thankyou

Last edited by Soli Deo Gloria; Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:49 AM.