<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]I think it is worth clarifying that the "evidence" you have is rooted in the promise given to parents who faithfully nurture their children in the faith. That is, you are not presuming anything, rather you are believing the promise.</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>Jason,<br><br>We might be getting into another area here. The evidence that my child is one of Christ's sheep is that she was born into a believing household. Now certainly if I were less faithful than I am, I would have less confidence in the hope that such evidence may provide, but I would still have the same type of evidence. I do believe that the more faithful one is, the greater confidence he may have for his children. But I would not want to say it's a slam dunk, lest we violate God's sovereign good pleasure. Obviously, I am not willing to pray for my children more than I do, or else I would. Concerning Psalm 103:17-18, don't all believers fear God and keep covenant, some more than others? Don't we all love God and keep his commandments to some degree? The most faithful man on earth is not faithful enough, but is he faithful enough to ensure the salvation of his children ipso facto? How much is enough in order that we might name it and claim it? I just don't know. Do you? Please be desperate with me for my household, so I will not have to be desperate later.<br><br>Finally, I have a greater confidence that I am to treat my children as Christians until they should show otherwise, than I do that they are actually elect. That probably was somewhat obvious I suppose.<br><br>Unworthy But His,<br><br>Ron