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speratus said: While God doesn't repent or believe for anyone, neither can man do anything to believe or repent. He receives faith and repentance as gifts. So faith and repentance are means that apprehend Christ but how can embracing be a means to obtain grace since it is clearly a work that men do? The "receiving of faith and repentance as gifts" is part of the blessings that occur in regeneration. But these gifts MUST and WILL be expressed by the individual who most willingly and deliberately repents and believes on Christ. A sinner is not justified nor will he/she ever be saved unless these are done. Those whom the Father gave to Christ WILL come to Him in repentance and faith. One is not saved by any eternal decree, in and of itself, for the decree INCLUDES all the means and temporal actions of men. Thus, all those who are regenerated will infallibly repent and believe and endure to the end. I am convinced that you have not come to a reasonable understanding within yourself in regards to the biblical doctrines of "God's Absolute and Immutable Sovereignty" and "Man's Full Responsibility". You appear to have a serious hangup with the latter. And I would guess it is, at least in part, due to an obsession to reject anything that even hints (in your estimation) of "free-will". You then ask: Could preaching/reading and regeneration (and normally would they) occur at the same time? Normally, yes! The only exceptions would be in the case of elect infants who die in infancy and those who are incapable of comprehending the Word. (See WCF X:III) In His Grace,
simul iustus et peccator
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