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Pilgrim said: The "receiving of faith and repentance as gifts" is part of the blessings that occur in regeneration. But these gifts MUST and WILL be expressed by the individual who most willingly and deliberately repents and believes on Christ. A sinner is not justified nor will he/she ever be saved unless these are done.
Salvation is not of works less any man should boast. Eph. 2:8, 9
Those whom the Father gave to Christ WILL come to Him in repentance and faith. One is not saved by any eternal decree, in and of itself, for the decree INCLUDES all the means and temporal actions of men. Thus, all those who are regenerated will infallibly repent and believe and endure to the end. I am convinced that you have not come to a reasonable understanding within yourself in regards to the biblical doctrines of "God's Absolute and Immutable Sovereignty" and "Man's Full Responsibility". You appear to have a serious hangup with the latter. And I would guess it is, at least in part, due to an obsession to reject anything that even hints (in your estimation) of "free-will".
The Holy Spirit makes unwilling men willing. But man's willing is not how or why he is justified before God. I suspect that a faulty order of salvation that disconnects regeneration and justification has led to the Arminian schism in the Reform church.
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