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speratus said:
Your whole argument is based on an unproven assumption: If baptism is a washing of regeneration, all baptized are regenerated.
But your reply is based upon something I never wrote nor hold to. No wonder you are so mixed up. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes2.gif" alt="" /> My assumption was based upon YOUR apparent view that baptism is an instrumental cause of regeneration, or perhaps more accurately, that the Word is effectual in regeneration in conjunction with baptism. What I clearly pointed out was that IF that is your view, then of necessity, since regeneration includes the creation of faith, then those who are regenerated in baptism are infallibly saved . . . UNLESS you also believe that one can be regenerated and not be infallibly saved, which opens up all kinds of other problems.

So, why not READ [Linked Image] more carefully and THINK <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/Ponder.gif" alt="" /> before you respond next time. The question is, what do YOU believe takes place in baptism, without regard to the age of the recipient, unless it matters in your view? And again, I do not want a quote from some other author or a Lutheran Confession to evidence your view, but rather a quote from the infallible written Word. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

In His Grace,


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simul iustus et peccator

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