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I don't know what reformed sense means. I have seen no greater work apart from the Bible than in "The Spiritual Man", a perfectionist work of the redemptive design, if I may be so bold as to call it that. You mentioned extremes and error. What extremes and error?[/color]

Reformed in the Calvinistic sense of the term. I have read the 3 volume set called The Spiritual Man many years ago. Do you think The Spiritual Man is an inspired work of the Holy Spirit without error, as the Holy Scripture is? Do you agree with Nee’s own assessment of his own work?

Long after this book's initial publication in Chinese our brother Nee was once heard to express the thought that it should not be reprinted because, it being such a 'perfect' treatment of its subject, he was fearful lest the book become to its readers merely a manual for principles and not a guide to experience as well.

Vol. 1, Explanatory Notes
Let us look at the rest of your questions below. These will address “some” other problems in his writings.

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What is wrong with arminian baptism of the holy spirit?

There are several problems here:

    1. This is a form of baptismal regeneration in which he believed that baptism justifies, cleanses from sins, and frees ones from demons and to serve God.

    2. a priest immerses a child three times into the water invoking the Holy Trinity, so that the newly baptized child is now ready to receive the Holy Spirit.

    3. With the singing of the hymn Aghpiur Genatz, a priest pours Holy Muron into the palm of his hand and he seals therewith the child’s forehead, eyes, ears, nostrils, mouth, hands, heart, back, and feet beseeching the Holy Spirit to seal the Faith willingly accepted by the newly-baptized and to protect the child’s sight, thoughts, words, deeds, and service from the influences of evil in the world.[/LIST] Do you see any problems here?

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    I am not aware in his writings he believes in so called second blessings.

    He believes in a separate filling of God after salvation, that being the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. He did not push the tongues issue as much as many today, but he did push the second blessing issue of this separate baptism against Scripture, which says: But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his (Rom 8:9). Thus, how can one be saved and not already have the Spirit of Christ, for is it not the Spirit himself that beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God? (Rom 8:16).

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    He does believe in spiritual warfare. Is there something wrong with rebuking the devil?

    I like to talk to God and not to demons. Eve tried that and it did not work out to well for any of us. But, yes, I believe in Spiritual Warfare. It is a great battle that is fought 24/7 by prayer, proper study, proper discipline... But, as far as seeing a demon around every corner and casting them out in today’s day and time, no that is not spiritual warfare.

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    Exercise of the sign gifts? What do mean? Are you aware Nee cared for the inner man much less the outer gifts?

    Nee believed that ALL the gifts were still available today when Scripture is clear that many have ceased.

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    Why do you believe intuitive revelation in the spirit is wrong?

    Nee said, Spiritual life is maintained simply by heeding the direction of the spirit's intuition. The believer will wait quietly for the voice of the Holy Spirit to be heard in his spirit, intuitively. Upon hearing the inner voice he rises up to work, obeying the direction of intuition (Spiritual Man, vol 1, p 149) and, Well do we begin if we follow intuition instead of thought. To perform God's will a Christian need simply heed the direction of his intuition. There is no necessity to ask others, or even to ask yourself (vol 2, p 31 & 74).

    Now the Scriptures say, These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word [i]with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so[/i] (Acts 17:11) and that the heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it (Jer 17:9)? Now, I ask you, are we to search the Scriptures with our intuition or a renewed mind (Rom 12:2)? God does not embrace mindless Christianity and mysticism.

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    What is wrong with God perfecting us?

    Nothing, but I did not say that. I used the term perfectionism , which is a state in the Christian life where you just don't sin anymore. The Scripture states, If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (1 John 1:8). But, Nee byspiritual intuition, against the Scripture, said we could arrive at a state of perfectionism saying, Whoever genuinely desires to be perfect must let the Cross cut deep into his emotion, (vol 2, p 195), and again, on page 256, when a believer has experienced the practical treatment of the Cross he finally arrives at a pure life. He sums up this false theology by saying, [color:red]they forget that unless all nerve responses, sensations, actions, conduct, words, food and speech which belong to the body are utterly for the Lord, they can never arrive at perfection (vol 3, p 149).

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    Why do you think it is not possible for a Christian to be possessed. What makes him immune? or free to be susceptible

    Show me one Scripture where a Christian was possessed by a demon?

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    Why do you think Watchman Nee believed in 4 words of praise, and in so believing this why have you married him to Witness Lee's cult?

    Lee was a disciple and co-laborer with Watchman Nee for 25 years (1925-1950). In 1934 Watchman Nee entrusted Witness Lee with the responsibility for his publication operation, called the Shanghai Gospel Bookroom. In 1949, Witness Lee was sent by Watchman Nee to Taiwan to insure that “the things delivered to them by the Lord” would not be lost. Watchman Nee instructed Witness Lee to continue the former's publishing operation abroad as the Taiwan Gospel Bookroom, which has been publicly recognized as the publisher of Watchman Nee's works outside China. In 1962, Witness Lee settled in California. Thus, am I the one that married them together?

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    Why do you not think Nee believed in victory, teaching, doctrine and prayer?

    Again, this is not what I stated. I stated, He stressed that Christian "victory" is not gained by teaching, doctrine, or prayer, but by just four words of praise.> Do you assert with Nee that you can have victory in the Christian life without teaching, doctrine, or prayer?

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    Do you see the difference between Lee and Nee?

    Very little if any. They both embraced error!


Reformed and Always Reforming,