Too many links. Perhaps you could explain it to me so even a babe in Christ could understand. Surely such things of God need not be so complicated.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]While you entertained several errors in your assessment of Baptism, I do not have the time to address them all, maybe someone else will. Please explain how people are ACTUALLY regenerated by water—BTW this is Baptismal Regeneration, which has been condemned by the Church for centuries. My Bible tells me I am regenerated by the Holy Spirit. Baptism rather comes after Regeneration. Salvation is not by works (Eph 2:8-10). Baptism is a work.</font><hr></blockquote><p><br>I don't know how water regenerates unto salvation, since I nor Nee believe this even though having accussed of such. Isn't it amazing how men make mistaken assumptions about men to puff up self for whatever reason could there as they believe they perceive reality correctly. You said there were some wrong things also, what were they?<br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]Though there were several out of context statements you made in your post (you failed to address the issue of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, you do not understand Nee in context, I said MANY gifts, which you interpreted as ALL, I asked for a biblical example and you gave me a definition from Jessie Penn Lewis, you failed to see the teaching of Nee in Lee, etc.) a more important issue I believe is at the root of our discussion. So, please do not worry about answering ALL the inconsistencies in the posts above. Please answer ONLY this one series of questions. </font><hr></blockquote><p><br>So some gifts are allowed to continue but others are not? Does it get confusing to pick which ones? Why do you think I dont understand Nee's context. My conscience is clear in understanding and satisfied. How did I fail to address the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Is it not burial and ressurrection? I am not a Bible scholar on Christian possession, so I am not sure what would satisfy you of the hundreds of examples of men who were obsessed and and possessed in sin and thus by the evil spirit that inspires that sin. You could probably open the Bible to almost any page. I won't reply to your legalistic request of an example of laid out possession for everyone in the Bible in varying degrees has had evil influence in their lives at one point in their lives or another from obsessed activity leading to more pronounced possessed activity. The definiton by Jessie is what i agree with so in that defintion it could apply to hudreds of examples in scripture. Just open up your BIble and the concordance and pick out a sin. I don't care about Lee's teaching. I do care about Watchman Nee's teaching. YOu said I don't understand Nee's teaching yet I own all his books. What is it that you don't think I understand? You said there is inconsistencies. What inconsistencies? What do you think is the root of the problem? What problem?<br><br>1. How is a person born again? Be specific. <br><br>2. What is total depravity? <br><br>3. What is regeneration? <br><br>4. What is conversion? <br><br>Let's deal with one thing at a time. I think we have enough questions on the table already to begin adding more. I believe Calvanism is fatalistically puffed up a killer of free will, a grand deception, not unlike how pentecostals use gibberish to feel they are saved, calvanists use total depravity and limited atonement for the same purpose.