Men are so vain. They think that if they interject in their commentary scripture, that somehow this vindicates them, but as we have seen your view circumvents the very scripture you yourself cite each time because it denies one central aspect which is that God cares for His Image and that is who He wants to walk with, not a zombie, but you don't care for this at all. You provide false accussations readily quotable "humanistic philosophy", "intelligently", yet these are the very things by which you yourself suffer for that is what calvinism is, humanistic philosophy unintelligent. But I would add one more thing. That is disprespectful, because never do you address the central theme of my proof against calvinism but find ways to deflect from it. What is that central theme? God gave us a free-will bestowed in His image and He does not mess with it, meaning, He does not predetermine it, nor preselect it, or premanipulate it. You gloss over this disprespectfully and do not see how God's loving nature makes this so central to His creation. You blank your mind over this and deaden your spirit to this essential fact that nullifies calvinism and exalts total depravity and zombiism and are unable to see this interaction in its unsalvation, and how impersonal such a god would be yet you accept him fully without any consideration of what I am saying to you and why I find him to be so ugly and impersonal and demented. <br><br>See how your manipulation is at work here. I said calvinists say "God chose me, but not you" and "I did not choose God, God choose me, I was just a pawn", but you only quote that part you want to hear which is still prideful, "I did not choose God, God choose me . . ." unable to see the pawn part and how you use this to pride yourself over others. Imagine a pride of being chosen by God but that you never came to Him. I would suggest to you that this god you speak of did indeed choose you because the God of the Bible requires our consent. This god that has chosen you never required your consent so may I say he is not the true God, for he came to you in a state of passivity like Pentecostals receive their god. You are very similar this way. though you have no way of understanding without God's life, at least spend some time pondering these words for if it is God's will for you to receive Him, and I can assure you that it is, then you can accept Him non-calvinistically, and Christ will defeat this spirit in you that clings to calvinism.<br><br>You misused John 15.16 because as you know God's choses us because of giving us a means to receive Him, that is how He choses us who receive Him. Calvinistically, you read this another way, because you take it legastically and in so doing read it whereby you were a zombie pawn chosen not realizing God requires your consent, though the god of calvinism needs no consent at all, none whatsover, so this is how you can know you have received something else.<br><br>In 2 thess 2.13 know why the saved are chosen before the foundation of the world. if you take this scripture legalistically, you become a calvinist. But if you accept the fullness of God's Word you realize that the saved are chosen from the beginning because God in His righteous bestowment of free-will knows who would receive Him ahead of time a foreknowledge omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent. This is wholly different that this god you believe in that zombifies you and prides you over others whom premeditates people to hell. It makes your god a murder. That is sick and demented. You have no idea how sick your god really is. He is Satan no less.<br><br>Lazarus qualified for life from the tomb. You need only know this, for its proof is in the fact that Jesus removed him from the tomb. Praise the Lord. THe Lord will not resurrect a man from the bad side of Hades to eternal life if God does not see it fit or righteous to do so, but Lazarus righteously qualified. We can know that God will not do something unrighteously.<br><br>Similarly men who are bereft by the fall, are not so desolate that God's original grace of free-will can not come to the Lord. This is the true condition and state of mankind, not the state calvinism teaches which messes up what we might call biblical psychology, totally not reflecting man's true condition. It teaches a different theology otherwise one that lowers the conscience, zombifies man, prides oneself over those preselected for hell, for have you ever heard of anything so demented? It totally takes the emphasis of what matters, that is the choice of coming to Christ, so much so that many who hear about calvinism are at a loss because they never receive the feelings of being chosen when they don't realize that it is not the feelings but the belief, the choice, the faith of believing the truth in Christ.<br><br>Though your god falsely accusses me of "willful refusal to accept the clear and plain teaching of John 1:12, 13", I have the scriptures in my heart accurately in the Holy Spirit, as you call this to the Jews, when it is for us all, and it says "but as many as received him" shows the requirement of reception, that the fullness of scripture, not the misuse of scripture to legalize calvinism into it. This is why quoting scripture is so hypocritical because it is being used to back a lie, falsely accuse, for that is how deceitful the demonic spirit of calvinism is, though pentecostals do the same thing. I love comparing pentecostalism and calvinism for they are so similar, one unto passivity of today's tongues (not biblical tongues which are for today) with the false prophet, and calvinism's passivity unto killing the free-will by denying we are made in God's image and idolatrizing total depravity to suggest we are zombie selectees, also a passivity of spirit and blanking out of the mind, both requiring no consent of the person, totally against biblical psychology.<br><br>God has sovereignty, and he works it, and man has sovereignty and God does not mess with it like the demons of pentecostalism and calvinism that require the passivity of man and the blanking out of the man's mind, the two vital requirements for the evil spirits entry and for garnering a stonghold of false mistaken assumptions.<br><br>Indeed, the choice is clear, these lead to utter destruction. You have made your choice it seems. I would not want to be in your shoes for this choice you have made is reflection of your true heart, but it need not remain so, you can come to Christ, the true Christ and the God of armenianism of the Bible. With my God there is always still away for you to receive Him, but under the death of calvinism it is already predecided passivity false claims and pentecostalism it needs today's tongues passivities.<br><br>Come, come now.<br><br><br><br><br>