<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]It is merely a reiteration of the same old tactic of Calvinism to disrespectfully never deal with the central point of armenianism, but always to deflect onto much other thought. I have fully addressed John 1.12-13, and to totally diminish it as uncogent is more of that same old unholy disprectful response. You need not have a greek study to accept its clarity that says "but as many as received him". They received him. Amen. They fulfilled the condition for salvation.</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>Okay Sunny Jim let's get something straight Arminianism is the doctrine purposed by the followers of Jacob Arminius, Armenians are inhabitants of Armenia try to get the spelling correct because I still haven't figured out what Armenia has to do with free will. [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/rofl.gif" alt="rofl" title="rofl[/img]<br><br>Second on John 1:12-13, no you didn't address it you made assertions about the verses but never really brought anything to the table that even came close to a real exegete of the verse. And while the perspicuity of the verse is made clear through the Holy Spirit to actually understand what it says must come about through the rules of grammar which Pilgrim illustrated fully. You have yet to do so.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"] I read one of your articles, and it is the same old thing, an unwillingness in that article to deal with the central point at hand, so until you stop being disrespectful and acknowledge the central point of armenianism that debunks calvinism, how can you expect others to read 1001 articles. Can you find it in yourself to accept that God has made us in His image? <span style="background-color:yellow;">Why is this so hard for you to accept and that under such an image man could never be totally deprave? That is a lie.</span> And as soon as this is proven in your heart all of calvinism dies, and becomes just a cult following of altering scripture through legalizing only focusing on aspect of the scriptures not seeing its fullness.</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>And here again you deny the fall was total in its nature. Sin hasn't effected all of us even though scripture clearly illustrates the contrary. (Ps. 58:3; 51:5;<br>Gen. 6:5; Eph. 2:1-3; Co. 2:13) I freely acknowledge that I was made in the image of God. I also freely acknowledge that image was corrupted by what Adam did (Romans 5:12) and that now because of depraved will wanting to do only those things that are against God. (John 8:34; Romans 3:9-17). <br><br>Until you sir realize that God has indeed through his Holy Word described our condition I fear that it will be you and not I who stands before the Great White throne.<br><br>BTW you didn't tel me what church you attended nor your reasons for coming to this forum.<br><br><br><br>