Joe,

From what I gather from MJM and Fred, MJM might have been using the term, "Reformed" in the sense that he was referring to Arminianism which flowed from the Protestant Reformation in that it too shared in the breaking away from the RCC. In other words, he might be be using the word "Reformed" in a strict historical sense and not a theological one. To say the least, to do so, IF that is the case and perhaps MJM will be kind enough to explain what he REALLY intends to convey by the use of the word, "Reformed", it does lend itself to confusion.

Be that as it may, even the purest form of Arminianism, i.e., that espoused by Jacob Arminius and expressed in the Remonstrance, is still heretical and contrary to biblical teaching as it is inherently self-contradictory. For example, the affirmation of a substitutionary atonement cannot be consistently upheld by also affirming a universal atonement. And again, Sola Gratia cannot be held when one also affirms Free-will.

I am sure we ALL would like to see MJM defend his position. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

In His Grace,


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