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averagefellar said: Could you provide exegesis that shows that passage is an order of events?
Act 2:38 Then1161 Peter4074 said5346 unto4314 them,846 Repent,3340 and2532 be baptized907 every one1538 of you5216 in1909 the3588 name3686 of Jesus2424 Christ5547 for1519 the remission859 of sins,266 and2532 ye shall receive2983 the3588 gift1431 of the3588 Holy40 Ghost.4151 (KJV+) G2532 kai Thayer Definition: 1) and, also, even, indeed, but Part of Speech: conjunction A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: apparently, a primary particle, having a copulative and sometimes also a cumulative force
Kai is accumulative. Could you offer exegesis showing Peter was setting forth a prescriptive formula?
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Prescriptive, in the sense that baptism is the sole means of grace? No. I agree that "and" is cumulative. The unregenerate sinner can not receive remission of sins without repentance and one of the means of grace (Word and Sacrament).
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No.
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[admiringly] Very well expressed, Pilgrim.
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That's all from me, folks.
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Regeneration's an event, not a process.
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Didn't you essentially agree with me?
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I prefer to not get into debates on baptism.
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[shudder] Eschatology! There's a sticky wicket.
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