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The term ‘charismatic’ comes from a Greek word used in relation to grace. The practices of the pagans might be termed ‘pneumatic’ but ‘charismatic’ should be seen as a word with positive connotations, since it has to do with the grace gifts of God, and not the spiritual practices of the pagans. That does not mean that everything that gets called ‘Charismatic’ is truly charismatic.
Many of the Corinthians were pagans (1 Cor 12:3). Many in the visible church are pagans (Matt 7:21-23). Many in Pentecostal churches are pagans. Many Charismatics are pagans. According to your definition only those that are truly saved and are endowed with supernatural gifts are truly Charismatic. Thus, why do YOU and others use the Charismatic description for everyone in your movement? Is this not a false use of charis by YOUR definition? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/scratch1.gif" alt="" />

By YOUR definition, YOU are misusing the term yourself since: (1) you do not know who the saved are, (2) you cannot prove who the saved are, (3) you can not prove that the gifts being employed are not from the devil himself. Shame on you for associating charis with all these unregenerates. Charismatic does not have very positive connotations if YOU are using it of pagans!

YOU yourself asked Pilgrim,

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So are you jokingly pretending to be a Charismatic (claiming to have extra-scriptural revelation) at the risk of being a false prophet?
Why did YOU associate charis with a false prophet?

In addition, YOU said to Robin,

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I can agree with you that there is a lot of flakiness in certain ends of the Charismatic movement.
Why did YOU associate charis with flakiness?

Moreover, YOU stated of the Shepherd of Hermas,

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If the church, in general, was cessationist, then 'Charismatic' books like the Shepherd would not have been so popular and widespread and often held in high regard by church leaders.
However, the Shepherd was not accepted as Scripture and has false theology in it, thus why are you associating charis with that which is false?

I'll put my crayons up now. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/igiveup.gif" alt="" />

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Reformed and Always Reforming,