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I too was regenerated, converted, adopted, sanctified, and sealed long before I discovered and converted to Calvinism.
I would like to believe that what Beloved57 is trying to say is that sooner or later those who are truly regenerate inevitably become Calvinists, as surely as the regenerate inevitably confess Christ as Lord openly.
But reading post after post from Beloved57, he appears to be saying that a person has neither heard nor responded to Christ at all until and unless they were presented with the Five Points of Calvinism. Anything less is, to Beloved57, a false gospel and thus anyone who is not Calvinist isn't really saved.
You can't have it both ways. But the point is that belief in Calvinism does not save anyone. The gospel is a message about Jesus, not a technical manual describing how His work is applied to the elect; in what order the various aspects of salvation occur in time; when and how the Father chose the Elect, etc. The gospel is not a message about justification by faith, but that message about Jesus. When that message is received and believed by God-given faith resulting from regeneration, a person is converted and truly eternally saved. Even if they don't understand all the technical manuals.
Ligten up, Beloved57!
Saved before Calvinism, Robin
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Gospel truth
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Pilgrim
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Pilgrim
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beloved57
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Pilgrim
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In bad company?
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beloved57
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Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:41 PM
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Charges
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Pilgrim
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Kathy
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Pilgrim
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Adopted
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Adopted
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beloved57
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Adopted
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beloved57
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:00 PM
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The Audience is important!
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:12 PM
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Pilgrim
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:42 PM
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doulos
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Gnostic Arminianism
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Rubbish and various falsehoods refuted
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Footnote concerning donkeys
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Salvation Before Calvinism
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