Wow I feel like troy Maybe Troy got a new IP address with the Nee post, but I guess that is a different Story altogether. I do have one questoin though. How do you reconcile versus such as Romans 8?<br><br>28And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him,[1] who[2] have been called according to his purpose. 29For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified. <br><br>Or how about the account of Saul who became Paul on the road to Damascus:<br><br>Acts 9<br>3As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. 4He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?" <br>5"Who are you, Lord?" Saul asked. <br>6"I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting," he replied. "Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do." <br><br>I guess somewhere on the road there Saul chose God? Just a few thoughts.<br><br><br>Daniel<br>