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I now understand what you are trying to say, to which I would only repeat that no reasonable baptist thinks that we can ensure an elect visible church through the means of credo baptism.

Thank you Ron. However, it is my belief that all reasonable baptists turn to scriptural sacramentology and become paedobaptists. The baptist position is unreasonable from the onset, IMHO.

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At the very least, who do you know believes that we only have a chance of baptizing the elect? I, already, showed how the word “for” does not indict the Baptist of any wrong doing or thinking.

None, personally. However, when we try to make passages speaking of the elect apply to baptism, how else should we interpret the intended meaning, spoken or not? As far as baptism being intended only "for" the elect, I have yet to see scripture provided for such. I agree that since we most likely are in agreement we should help this brother with his understanding. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/BigThumbUp.gif" alt="" />


God bless,

william