Kathy,

I openly offered to supply you with Scripture to show that there are 3 persons, each of whom is called "God", yet despite the fact that you have no use for "man-made creeds or confessions" and confess to submit only to Scripture, you haven't asked for any?

Here's a marvelous biblical argument for the doctrine of Trinity: The Divine Trinity, by Herman Bavinck

And here are but a few of the myriad texts which teach the doctrine of the Trinity:


Heb 1:6 'And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.'

Compare this text with:

Deut 6:13 'Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.'

Luke 4:8 'And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan:for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.'

Isa 42:8 'I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.'

If Jesus Christ was not GOD incarnate, then why would God the Father command the angels to worship Him? But the text in Heb 1:8 clearly shows that God calls Jesus Christ God!

How about another example from Scripture, not what you called 'man-made' stuff which has no authority!

Isa 43:10 'Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. 11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.'

Isa 44:6 'Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.'

Pretty clear right? There is no God other than God Himself who is the 'first and the last'!

Okay, let's jump to the NT....

Rev 1:8 'I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.'

Pretty clear here, that this is God speaking......

Rev 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.'

Again this is the same person who has identified himself and the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last! Which we know is God Almighty, the ONLY God.

Moving on in the same chapter......

Rev 1:17 'And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.'

Again the speaker identifies himself as 'the first and the last', but now adds a bit more information as to his identity, 'I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.'

Just who is that? Who was dead, and is alive forever? And Who has the keys of hell and death?

At the end of this book of Revelation, we find the definitive answer: Rev 21:5 'And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.'

Again we have here a clear reference to God Almighty sitting upon His throne and using this identifying phrase 'Alpha and Omega, beginning and end.'

Now let's look a bit further;

Rev 22:12 'And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.'

The One who 'comes quickly' identifies himself as the 'Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and last.'

And in Verse 16 He speaker names Himself:

Rev 22:16 'I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.'

Jesus Christ is identified as the 'Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.' But these titles belong to the ONE GOD! Thus Jesus Christ IS the One God.

Compare these references to each other and you will see that Jesus Christ is GOD incarnate and of the same substance and essence with the Father.

God is Coming: Zech 14:4,5; 1Thess 4:13-18; Rev 19:11,16
Jesus is Coming: 1Thess 3:11-13; Matt 25:31-46; Tit 2:11-13

God the Rock: Deut 32:1-4; 22:13,22, Ps 18:2; 31:3; Is 17:10
Jesus the Rock: Matt 16:17:19; Is 28:16; Acts 4:11,12; 1Cor 10:4; Num 20:1-11; Eph 2:20-22; 1Pet 2:6-8

God the First and Last: Is 41:4; 43:10,11; 44:6,8
Jesus the First and Last: Rev 1:17; 22:13

God the King: Ps 44:4; Is 43:10-15; Jer 10:10; Zech 14:9
Jesus the King: Matt 2:1-6; Lk 19:32-35; 22:3; Joh 18:37; 19:21; 1Tim 6:13-16; Rev 15:1-4; 19:11-16

God the Shepherd: Ps 23; Is 40:10,11; Ps 100
Jesus the Shepherd: Jh 10:8-12; Heb 13:20; 1Pet 2:21-25; 5:4

God the Redeemer and Saviour: Ps 78:34,35; 106;21 Is 43:3-11; 44:6;45:21; 47:4; 49:26; Luk 1:46,47
Jesus Redeemer and Saviour: 1Jh 4:14; 1Pet 2:21-24: Acts 20:28; Gal 3:13;Joh 4:40-42; Php 3:20

God the Creator: Gen 1:1; 2:7; Job 33:4; Ps 33:6; 104:30; Is 40:28;45:11-18; Mal 2:10
Jesus the Creator: Joh 1:10; 1Cor 8:6; Eph 2:9; Col 1:12-17; Heb 1:8-12

In regard to the Holy Spirit being a person Who is God:

Acts 5:3 "But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thy heart to lie to the Holy Spirit, and to keep back [part] of the price of the land? While it remained, did it not remain thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thy power? How is it that thou hast conceived this thing in thy heart? thou has not lied unto men, but unto God."

One cannot lie to a dog or a house or a building. A lie can only be told to a rational being. Ananias lied to the Holy Spirit; to God!

Acts 13:2, 4 "And as they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. So they, being sent forth by the Holy Spirit, went down to Seleucia; and from thence they sailed to Cyprus."

Only rational persons speak and make commands upon others, which the text clearly says the Holy Spirit did.

Acts 28:25 "And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed after that Paul had spoken one word, [b]Well spake the Holy Spirit[b] through Isaiah the prophet unto your fathers,"

Once again, it is said that the Holy Spirit spoke, albeit through the instrumentality of a man; Isaiah the prophet.

[color:"blue"]There is only ONE GOD! And there are 3 persons! The Father, and He is called God; the Son and He is called God, and the Holy Spirit and He is called God! Therefore the 3 persons ARE THE ONE GOD![/color]


In His Grace,

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