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beloved57 said:
call it what you will, when you gave me your testimony up there, you did not mention one verse, not one scripture, in fact you said you didn`t believe any of the five points of calvinism= the truth they represent, that is the Gospel of jesus christ, in that those truths set forth truthfully who he is and what he accomplished. If you did not believe those truths about christ, then you belived a false gospel, and you were decieved. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/argue.gif" alt="" />
Oy vey.... did you go to school to learn your arrogance or did you come by it naturally? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> I guess by your standards, the Ethiopian Eunuch wasn't saved, nor thousands of others which we read of in the Scriptures who had no knowledge of the "Five Points of Calvinism". So, do you believe that until someone hears and thereafter believes and is able to articulate the "Five Points" they cannot be saved?

Again... here's a good term for you: ASSENSUS. There have been and will be many who have heard the "Gospel" as defined by you, believe the truths of it and even have post-graduate degrees from institutions that are founded upon those truths who are yet dead in sins. One is not saved by simply believing the truth of the Gospel, but rather they are saved when they put faith in the PERSON of the Lord Jesus Christ, of Whom the Gospel testifies. CHRIST saves sinners, not a set of doctrines; true though they may be. One isn't saved without hearing the truth, but they surely aren't saved by or because of them.

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John 1:12-13 (ASV) "But as many as received [color:"red"]him[/color], to them gave he the right to become children of God, [even] to them [color:"red"]that believe on his name[/color]: <span style="background-color:yellow">who were born</span>, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, <span style="background-color:yellow">but of God</span>."

In His grace,

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