Dear 'theHinge'

This has been a long difficult thread and topic. (In answering your question I am not looking to reopen a debate... I know how you all feel about the Trinity doctrine.)

Because you asked... I started the thread not knowing what I meant... How’s that? It was the beginning of my own questioning. I suspected ? that the Trinity doctrine misses the spiritual truth... That in a nutshell is the issue. “Who do you say that I am?” (too important to get this wrong.)

If the answer is the Son of God, but not the Father... the Father revealer and revealed... then, I see an irreconcilable set of conclusions. This being that the name above all names is either the Word of God, or it isn’t.... Rev 2:17, 3:12, 19:13 That is Jesus Christ, God who came in the Flesh. Second to who? A separate (but not) Father named not “I AM” but Yahweh? He who has not the Son, has not the Father. A separate Father/God ? over earthly Jerusalem... Victorious as a sign of his sovereignty? (Sounds like Dispensationalism to me) 1 John 4:3... OR New Jerusalem descending from Heaven... Rev. 21:10.