Costello:<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]Since we are born from the womb dead in trespasses and sins, the only opportunity to do anything right before God, is to come to Him through faith in the shed blood of His Son.</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>You have stated the first part here correctly. But the second part is flawed. How is it that if we are DEAD, which you correctly state, that we are able to do this coming to HIM? The scripture states that there is NONE righteous, not one. How can this second part be possible when the bible says there is none RIGHTeous! Who are the exceptions to this NONE? That is why the word also states that one must be born again, quickened, be brought back to life before any movement toward God is possible. Man is not just sick spiritually, you rightly stated "HE's DEAD"<br><br>For whom did Christ die:<br><br>The Church Eph 5:25<br>His Sheep Jo 10:15<br>His Friends Jo 15:13<br>His Children Jo 11:52<br>The Elect Jo 17: 9 (them which Thou hast given me)<br>His People Matt 1:21<br>God's Elect Rom 8:32,33<br><br>As I've stated before all your questions have been answered on this topic in previous discussions. Here is just one of the links to those discussions. Limited Atonement<br><br>Dave<br>