<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]Arminians (it is with an I, not an E)</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>Ahh, my spell checker takes it both ways, now I know why. Thanks.<br><br>I applogize to those I have not reponded to in a timely manor. I am doing the best I can, but my wife is telling me I have to other stuff. BBBoooooorrrriiiiiinnnggg.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]If they are all REDEEMED (i.e., delivered from sin) they all have His righteousness imputed to them, by definition.</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>Here is point of major confusion then. <br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"] Thayer Definition:<br>1) to redeem<br>1a) by payment of a price to recover from the power of another, to ransom, buy off<br>1b) metaphorically of Christ freeing the elect from the dominion of the Mosaic Law at the price of his vicarious death<br>2) to buy up, to buy up for one’s self, for one’s use<br>2a) to make wise and sacred use of every opportunity for doing good, so that zeal and well doing are as it were the purchase money by which we make the time our own</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>It is a payment of price with the intention to recover something. It is to buy up for ones own use. There is nothing in that definition that includes imputed righteousness. Every sinner is redeemed but only those who receive it, will benefit from it in the sense of salvation, but redeeming the sinner was also necessary for God to be able to punish them.<br><br>It is like a number of prisoners having an outstanding debt at the bank you can’t pay. Someone else makes a huge deposit and says “just call the bank and ask them to transfer my money to your account, I told them to do it for any one who calls.” You have to make the call to clear the debt and be freed from prison, if you don't make the call, you serve the term and then are deliverd to the redeemer anyway because he had bought you.<br><br><br>
