<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]<br><br><br>I can’t get my brain around limited atonement which is what I’m focusing now. It is hard to express every detail that seems objectionable on a message board. I’m finding some confusion of terms which is always a major obstacle. I haven’t quite figured out the way ‘regeneration’ is used here. You seem to think that OT saints were regenerated. I don’t see how that is possible. Perhaps the most difficult part is the very low esteem that is held about Arminianism here. It is quite shocking.</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>Like you, I too was raised with a completely different theology. But one thing that helped me understand Calvinism was this distinction: While my Arminian teachers believed that Christ came to make salvation possible for "whosever will," Calvinism teaches that Christ actually accomplished the salvation of all the elect. As for the regeneration part, it finally made sense to me that regeneration (or being "born again" must precede conversion because responding positively to the gospel is impossible for the natural man. See 1 Corinthians 2:14-16. <br><br>The Old Testament saints must have been regenerated as well, for saving faith is impossible for natural man.<br><br>Those two points are what helped clarify the Reformed faith for me. And they magnified my sense of awe and amazement at God's sovereign grace by about a billion times!! I hope this will provide the same clarity for you as well.<br><br>Your servant,<br>Robin<br>