Pilgrim,

The reason I hadn’t asked for verses is that I have read, and seen so many verses already on the topic. And I think I am not making my point. I do appreciate your response and patience. Thank you for providing the verses. Honestly... I am and have been grueling over this... I am still considering and studying, etc. Partly, it is because there are Christians I know, and respect who brought it up... bringing to light gross misinterpretations, etc. Christians who believe the same thing I believe, and the same thing you believe. I’m not wishy-washy and any belief/doctrine to the wind. I take the Word and the Christian faith seriously. So again... I’m still churning with this. I do have a problem with authority... I can’t help it... which authority? I’m not happy with the current authority... including the Presbyterian church... and that may be the real issue.

You asked: If Jesus Christ was not GOD incarnate, then why would God the Father command the angels to worship Him? But the text in Heb 1:8 clearly shows that God calls Jesus Christ God!

I never said that Jesus Christ is not GOD. He is God. He is the Alpha and the Omega. That is what I believe.

What I meant: The Word doesn’t make this statement:
“God is one, but three persons: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit” That’s man’s extrapolation. And I count three Gods (but one.)


Jesus IS the Alpha and the Omega

To some, this statement is diminished... and Jesus is seen as separate from the Father and less than the Father. He’s not separate, and he’s not less... He’s God!

I believe in the inspired Word... that Jesus Christ IS the Word Incarnate. And, I believe that we view the God-head essentially the same way; which is why I said that many (not all) non-Trinitarians and Trinitarians believe the same thing. (I’m not JW or any other sect, title, etc.)

Why can’t I stick with the Word? You may think that is arrogant or disrespectful ? of me... Why do I need to submit to any creed other than Jesus Christ when it comes to understanding his Word? It’s salvation. These creeds weren’t accepted and revised until the 4th century... with powerful religious authority that decreed who was and wasn’t able to attain salvation. Which is God’s decision. And that power which isn’t man’s has been misused. So, I do question intent. The Holy Spirit has been around longer than that.


I disagree that the Word of God needs the additional explanation
"I and my Father are ONE" (John 10:30).

Thank you for your patience and giving me what you have to consider... and I’m still considering.

-Kathy