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lacknothing said:
So in actuality "the elect" are people who have "chosen" to repent and put their faith in Jesus. Your just saying that God chose you to be "elect" but it still had to take some effort on your part to become "elect".

And to rebutt the Roman Catholic Guy no I don't believe that the best time for a person to die is following his repentance because if one tuely repents and puts his faith in Jesus he can live another Thousand years and still be saved.

So basically to be an "elect" you have to practice repentance and faith so their are some "works" involved.


No, no, no. Our salvation comes 100% from God, it is Nothing we can do to earn it. The Elect will repent and display faith, and only the Elect. However, our faith comes from God not from within. IOW, Christian = the Elect.

I only commented because I thought you were misunderstanding Calvinists in saying that the Elect did not received God via repentence and faith. We are saying that it is only the Elect who will repent and have faith.

John Chaney

"having been firmly rooted and now being built up in Him and established in your faith . . ." Colossians 2:7