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I read the article Joe and I thought it was good. I have no problem in agreeing with your position on Divine election. I fail to see how the article addressed the question of limited atonement though. And I don't see that the writer is denying the aspect of man's free will in regard to the divine call that accompanies the 'who so ever will' of preaching. <br><br>Exactly to what extent we have a free will in regard to God's foreknowledge and predestination is very difficult to pin down. The quote Henry gave from CS Lewis regarding Abraham brings this out nicely. <br><br>Another example that totally boggles my mind is the book of Ruth.<br><br>Here people are just going through the process of living their lives just like anyone else but the things that happen and the things they do develop into such a graphic and prophetic picture of Christ and the church it seems like the whole thing was written in advance and it was but they don’t know that.<br><br>So how do they have a free will? If we don’t have a perfectly free will, then how can Christ take us as a bride? In a perfect world, a husband chooses a wife, but the wife also has to be free to choose the husband. <br><br>To diminish man’s complete and total free will defeats the purpose of creating the world. We can never become automatons. How could He possibly love us the way He does is that is all we are or ever become after salvation?<br><br>In order for God to hold us accountable for anything we must first be made responsible and we can not be responsible for what we do have a free will to act on, including our salvation. Matthew 25:14-30<br>
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