I am well aware this is a Calvinist discussion board that is why I came here to discuss Calvinism. I have been browsing the web site and the articles. I read the link which Joe posted above and it pretty much followed Pink’s commentary. What I think I am finding for one thing, is this contradiction about the human side of salvation. <br><br><br>Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, [color:blue]Save yourselves from this untoward generation.</font color=blue> <br><br>I am also not seeing a very accurate representation of the Armenian doctrine, particularly on the view of unlimited atonement in regard to the final judgment of the wicked.<br><br>It was not only necessary for Christ to die for the sins of the redeemed but for the sins of the whole world. This does not mean that God set out to do something He was not able to complete as I am finding in the articles on this web site say. If He only intended to redeem a single group out of world why would He have let these other people be born if it is only to destroy them in Hell? <br><br>Christ died to freely offer salvation to all men, from Adam to the end of the world, who are equally eligible to receive it- though sadly not all have the same opportunity. It is absolutely necessary for this to be so, or sinners would be in the exact opposite situation as Adam, if not for the Tree of Knowledge. As Adam would have had no other opportunity but to obey God in the Garden, sinners would have no other opportunity but to live in rebellion, if not for the Cross. They have to have the personal choice of doing right or wrong with no exclusions. Since we are born from the womb dead in trespasses and sins, the only opportunity to do anything right before God, is to come to Him through faith in the shed blood of His Son. <br><br>Why did Christ die for the sins of the unredeemed? It should not be so very hard to understand. If they were never eligible for salvation in the first place, God could not condemn them for being sinners. How could say that they are guilty of rebellion, if repentance was never within their grasp? <br><br>Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; [color:blue]but now commandeth all men every where to repent:</font color=blue><br><br>So the cross, to us is salvation, to the rebels it is condemnation to death.<br><br>[color:red]God gave His Son to the whole world.</font color=red><br><br><br>The petition in Jesus prayer in John 17 could not be made for the world, but I see no support for limited atonement from that.<br>
