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Pilgrim said:xyz said:Pilgrim said: Sorry, but you have misunderstood what I wrote. My point was that the atonement of Christ does not DEPEND upon anything from man to make it effectual, i.e., the death of Christ accomplished ALL that it intended to do There is no disagreement about that. And just to be 100% clear and accurate, my FULL statement was: <blockquote> My point was that the atonement of Christ does not DEPEND upon anything from man to make it effectual, i.e., the death of Christ accomplished ALL that it intended to do; save those whom the Father had given to Christ, i.e., all those whom the Father elected to salvation in Christ. (Jh 6:39; 17:9, 11, 24; Eph 1:4-6)<br> </blockquote> In short, I qualified what the purpose was in God sending Christ to die for sinners, which was to secure infallibly the salvation of all the elect vs. making salvation possible to all mankind without distinction on the basis of an alleged free-will decision to ask Jesus into their heart, make Him Lord, decide for Christ or any other action on the part of man including believing upon Him. If you are still in agreement, then we have an understanding. If this is not agreeable to you, then we have a disagreement. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Very true. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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