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xyz said:
But you can pursue yourself, and will do so. You will know the terrible truth, even if no-one else does- though they will.
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Pilgrim replied:
What, pray tell, does that mean?
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xyz then responded with:
That a bad conscience condemns.
But a condemning conscience has no bearing whatsoever on the salvation wrought by Christ for His sheep.

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Pilgrim also asked:
And further, what does that have to do with the OBJECTIVE and FULL satisfaction made by Christ?
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And xyz replied with:
God is satisfied; he has the necessary 'payment'. What others do is their affair, on this count.
Again, what does one's response to the completed work of Christ have to do with the efficacious saving work of Christ in behalf of His people? ALL for whom Christ died WILL come to Him. (Jh 6:37, 39)


Romans 8:29-39 (ASV) "For whom he foreknew, he also foreordained [to be] conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren: and whom he foreordained, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. What then shall we say to these things? If God [is] for us, who [is] against us? He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not also with him freely give us all things? Who shall lay anything to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth; who is he that condemneth? It is Christ Jesus that died, yea rather, that was raised from the dead, who is at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or anguish, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? Even as it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; We were accounted as sheep for the slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."


For the very last time . . . The salvation merited by Christ's active obedience (righteousness imputed) and passive obedience (vicarious substitution death) was COMPLETE. From all eternity, the triune God decreed that a remnant of Adam's fallen race would be saved. To that end Christ came into the world to save those whom the Father gave Him. The penalty for their sins was atoned for and the perfect righteousness demanded by the law is imputed to them. The Holy Spirit works regeneration in these elect individuals at God's appointed time creating faith in the heart and a new nature by which they are enabled to repent of their sins and flee to Christ believing upon Him unto justification. Hence forth the Spirit dwells within them working sanctification until they are called home to await the final judgment at which time they are glorified. It is impossible that those predestinated to salvation in Christ will remain in their sinful state and reject either the Lord Christ as their Redeemer-Savior or His vicarious substitutionary work for them. All others will continue in their rebellious state hating God, His Christ and all that is holy and good until the end and even through eternity being justly cast into perdition as they were appointed.

In His grace,


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