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speratus said:
Are you saying nothing more than Esau is necessarily damnable according to that which God in His impeccable goodness, perfect justice, and the immutability of His hatred ordained before the foundation of the world? Or, are you assigning to God a purpose to cause Esau to be damnable? If yes, that is my objection to word "reprobation."

I'm saying what I have already written, which was basically nothing more than a paraphrase of what SPIRIT of GOD wrote in Romans 9. Before they were born, God determined to love the sinner Jacob, who was under condemnation by virtue of his being a member of the human race and elected him to salvation. And, likewise, Esau, being a sinner and thus under the just condemnation of God, he also being a member of the human race, God determined to withhold His mercy and consign him to hell, aka: reprobation/preterition.

You can play your silly evasive games all you like but it cannot blot out the indisputable truth of Scripture concerning God's sovereignty in ALL THINGS. You can deceive yourself if you like, which you obvious have by consciously avoiding the myriad biblical passages which teach these things, which is nothing more than the fruit of sin-plagued "reasoning", which hates the truth and substitutes it with a lie. Again.... God loved Jacob and thus elected him to salvation in Christ. God hated Esau and thus _________ him to damnation. Fill in the blank. But whatever word you choose, it will always result in the same thing... i.e., God determined to not save Esau and thus consigned him to a just damnation.


"All God's people, sooner or later, are brought to this point to see that God has a 'people,' 'a peculiar people,' a people separate from the world, a people whom He has 'formed for Himself, that they should show forth His praise.' Election sooner or later, is riveted in the hearts of God's people. And a man, that lives and dies against this blessed doctrine, lives and dies in his sins; and if he dies in that enmity, he will be damned in that enmity." - J. C. Philpot.

"The Sovereignty of God is the stumbling block on which thousands fall and perish; and if we go contending with God about His sovereignty it will be our eternal ruin. It is absolutely necessary that we should submit to God as an absolute sovereign, and the sovereign of our souls; as one who may have mercy on whom He will have mercy and harden whom He will!" - Jonathan Edwards


In His sovereign grace,


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