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J_Edwards said:
Speratus, I still have a hard time with Luthernismís predestination. If you claim single predestination as opposed to double predestination then what do you do with Romans 11:


Romans 11 does not speak of an election of damnation but only of an election of grace. The rest being blinded is not a reference to God causing evil. We discussed early in the thread that hardening does not mean God creates fresh evil.

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J_Edwards said:
Here even Luther states, "that [God] Himself is the author of the reprobation of the others, just as He Himself drove Israel into the Babylonian exile in their time." Thus, at best Luther (and Lutherans) seem very confused over this issue!


In the quote, the word "indirectly" is used with respect to reprobation. That's consistent with "Bondage of the Will" and with the Formula of Concord.

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Formula, SD, ElectionMoreover, even as God has ordained in His [eternal] counsel that the Holy Ghost should call, enlighten, and convert the elect through the Word, and that He will justify and save all those who by true faith receive Christ, so He also determined in His counsel that He will harden, reprobate, and condemn those who are called through the Word, if they reject the Word and resist the Holy Ghost, who wishes to be efficacious and to work in them through the Word and persevere therein. And in this manner many are called, but few are chosen.